It's a very trusting relationship you have to develop,
you are in a confined space that's hand-dug,
it's illicit, there's no "engineering stamp" on it,
so you-you have to, you are trusting your life with each other,
and you are making each other comfortable and ah,
going back to the first tunnel you ever crawled,
and playing the mind games with you
and understanding the confined space and the claustrophobia and darkness
and all the unknowns involved and just building that relationship
and we try to adopt as many people onto the team as we can,
and there's some people that freeze, it's just not for them,
you know, they'll get two feet into the illicit, hand-dug portion of the tunnel
and its just not something for them to do, so we are like;
"next" you know whoever wants to try it, we'll try and build the team but,
it's not...it's something we want to do, it's not a job requirement,
I can't go up to any agent and say;
"Crawl in this dirt tunnel" that "we don't know where it goes."
So, it's, it's a desire to do it,
and it's an a adrenaline rush to do it and we have some outstanding people on the team,
you know with Tom Pittman and Ryan Grimm and Jeff Lamb and Ryan Brown ,
and Todd Blatnick, there's several others, it's a very close-knit group of people.
We almost know what to do without saying to this point.
So, we know when we get into a tunnel, we look what we have,
everyone knows what their job is because we are so well organized with that system.