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Oh yeah it's a lot of fun.

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It's interesting, it's challenging, something new every time, every tunnel is different.

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Especially when we find them before they are finished with them.

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We know they put in a lot of work and they are not making any money off of it,

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so, you know, that's kind of rewarding.

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They put months or a year of work into something,

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and then there's no payoff so I think it's a good win for us.